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Mike Cernovich and Chris Kluwe to Join Forces

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“Oooh, shall we talk about the time two very well known Vikings players were caught in a compromising situation with an underage girl? Bet you didn’t hear about that one in the news. We can do this all day, Vikings. Special teams hears *everything*.” – Chris Kluwe (See CBS News article)

Chris Kluwe has a severe dislike for me. That is totally cool, and it shows what a big man Chris is. Chris is going to sue me as a way to expose sexual misconduct within the Vikings locker room.

How can a lawsuit against Mike Cernovich be a win for Chris Kluwe?

Chris Kluwe had filed a lawsuit with the Vikings. That lawsuit settled. My suspicion is that the lawsuit, like so many lawsuits, contained a non-disclosure agreement and non-disparagement agreement. A NDA would prevent Chris from talking “all day” about “compromising situations” with “underage girls.”

However, Chris is suing me. As a defense to my lawsuit, I will be able to bust open this NDA. Chris will be able to tell me “everything.”

Not only will Chris be able to tell me everything, he will have to tell me everything.

What will Chris Kluwe and I talk about?

In civil lawsuits, the parties are entitled to what’s called “discovery.” Discovery means we get to ask Chris questions that he must answer under oath. We get to have a long talk with him.

Because Chris Kluwe knows “everything” and can talk about this stuff “all day,” we will be able to cast a very wide net in discovery. We’ll be able to ask pretty much any question we want.

  • What does “underage” mean?

You do realize that an underage girl cannot consent to sexual activities? Sex with an underage girl is statutory rape. Did they have sex? What happened?

  • What does “compromising situation” mean?

A compromising situation means something of a sexual nature, right? What happened?

  • What didn’t I “hear about that one in the news”?

Did you call the police? What happened? Who were the players? Why didn’t anyone hear about this in the news? Was there a cover-up? What happened, Chris?!

  • What else has special teams heard about?

Yes, lets’ do this “all day,” Chris.

Thank you, Chris, for agreeing to set aside our personal differences for the greater good.

I’ll see you in court.

  • T and A man

    Iterations of thinking.

    In finance, its called a Keynesian beauty contest.

    Part of their hubris is their self-righteousness is the only expression necessary, moreso when it tends to go unchallenged.

    That said, you’re accruing some targets Mike, hope you don’t run yourself thin.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      My life was legit put in danger. People have filed false police reports on me. Threats of Swatting have been made. I wake up to thousands of hate messages a day. (Look at Topsy; attachment below.)

      Yes, I am beat the fuck up man. I am not going to pretend I am not. I’m feeling it.

      This is a test of my Gorilla Mindset principles and it could not have come at a better time.

      Growth is painful!

      • Know that we all appreciate what you’re doing.

        Apparently Matt Forney is taking it on the chin, too.

        These people are literally mentally unhinged.

      • Stone Cold Steve Austin

        Come on Mike. I want honest dialog here.

        • Danger & Play Blog

          Then you can wait for my post on that matter.

          • srsly?

            I eagerly awat it. Till then see you on twitter! 🙂

      • bear

        I wish you the best through this. You’ve freely given a lot of yourself over this last year, via great written material. It’s my hope that you come out of this not only intact but even stronger.

      • Tyranus

        Let us know what we can do, man; we all believe in the fight and you know that not only can we make a difference, but each of us putting in even an ounce of coordinated effort can turn into a landslide against the enemy. But because you’re the one with a grand plan, we’d need you to do the coordination.

      • Hopewell

        Good Luck Brother We’re All Behind You.

        Let Us Know If We Can Help With Anything!

      • Matthew Gallant

        What an assault you overcame Mike! Most of the anti-gamergate feed is filled with cowards. Who change their own narrative at the mere sight of counterargument.

        Thank you Mike and rest well!

      • Eric_D_Read

        Congrats for holding your ground.
        The biggest reason these people get away with their bullshit is that normal people just don’t want to wade around in their sludge pit day after day.

        Also: What is it with people deluded enough to think they’re going to beat a professional lawyer at their own game?
        I was a key witness in an assault & battery case against a few friends of mine a while back (it was dismissed). I’m a pretty smart guy, but navigating the hotseat against a prosecutor who does that stuff everyday is freaking grueling. i wouldn’t be eager to do it again if I didn’t have to.

      • armenia4ever

        Damn. Notice that when this happens to a guy, specifically someone in the manosphere, it’s not a big deal. No one cares.

  • It baffles me how someone can be so controlled by their ego that it blinds them to rational thought. It’s like a skinny guy taking on Arnold Schwarzenegger in a lifting comp and seriously 100% thinking hes going to win.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      The ego is the downfall of all of us. That’s why I write so much about it. Mine has gotten me intro trouble. It’s a beast you must always seek to tame.

      • KingKratom

        Humility, yet another redeeming quality and example for all.

  • Cole Younger

    Wow, you never know what you’re going to find once you start looking under the “Social Justice” woodpile. I wouldn’t be surprised if you uncover some really really nasty goings on in the NFL. Sparklepunter just might earn his SJW wings after all. LOL

    • Danger & Play Blog

      I had no idea who any of these people who were until they started going after me. Once I looked into them, I was actually surprised by what I found.

  • anon1

    I’m not sure if i understood this one that well (i’m a scientist not a lawyer). So basically if a lawsuit is settled between person A and another party, and there is an NDA in place that cant be broken. however if another lawsuit is in play pertaining to the same area, you can do this thing called discovery where you can ask person A who was under a NDA about NDA stuff right?

    So my question is, is person A onboard with this for those reasons, or are you trying to make the best out of a bad situation for person A? Seeing as they’d probably lose the lawsuit

    • Danger & Play Blog

      I can bust open the NDA. My belief is that Chris is suing me as a way around the NDA, but I haven’t talked to him about it. That’s just my best guess.

      Since Chris is a public figure, actual malice applies. Since I live in California, Chris would be forced to pay my legal fees if he sues me under California’s anti-SLAPP statute.

      Thus the only explanation I can entertain is that Chris wants to speak his mind and get out from under the gag order.

      That is why I’m proud of him. He doesn’t like me, but he is putting aside his wrath for the greater good.

      • That is an interesting way of looking at it. If that’s his intention hes done a good job of hiding it. I’ve been following along on twitter, but that’s never going to give an accurate perspective.

  • Dam.Seven

    Wait so he used sexual exploitation to extort money from the NFL?

    • Danger & Play Blog

      I highly doubt it. Chris is a good man. But that will be something my lawyers will have to ask him about.

      • RvS

        It certainly is a shame depositions force all these uncomfortable questions on good, upstanding people. I note lawyer*s*, also. How very unfortunate.

  • Clearly Chris unleashed his own Pandora’s box. This could potentially gather a ton of publicity.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      It will be a high profile First Amendment case. The media loves those types of cases.

      • anon1

        they will frame it as GG verses anti GG

  • wahsatchmo

    I don’t know if Chris has ever been deposed before, but it’s not fun, and it’s not “your day in court.” The opposing attorney gets to hammer at you for 6 hours or so, maybe even for multiple days, to try to get you to say something stupid or that sounds incriminating. They are not there to get the facts of the case or to hear your side. They want a “gotcha!” quote that they can sell to the jury as evidence of your duplicity.

    Mike’s been very public and transparent with everything he’s done, so we’ve already essentially read his deposition online. Chris may have a few skeletons left in the NFL closet, which, if revealed in testimony, may tarnish the reputation that he’s striving so hard to protect.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      Chris is sickened by the gag order and wants to name names. He has a deep need to get some issues off of his chest. I applaud him.

      • wahsatchmo

        You are probably correct, as I’m sure any Wikipedia lawyer of Chris’ caliber is aware of the niceties of pre-trial procedure. I’m certainly willing to admit if I’ve misjudged Chris, and clearing up the background behind those admittedly ambiguous tweets of his can only improve his future career prospects, which may or may not include a stint on Dancing With the Stars.

        • Danger & Play Blog

          Indeed. He read up on “actual malice” and California’s extremely strong anti-SLAPP laws. He is suing me and then paying my legal fees. What a guy! 🙂

          • fluffybiskuts

            “paying your legal fees” ….Cool–you charge what $1500/hr ??

  • CAPSLOCK HUSTLA

    GOOD WORK, MIKE. I’M SURE PUNTING JESUS HAD A GREAT REASON FOR NOT REPORTING STATUTORY RAPE. YOUR TEAMWORK WILL ALLOW HIM TO UNLEASH THE SOCIAL JUSTICE FURY.

    BTW, HAS ANYONE TWEETED THE VIKINGS YET TO LET THEM KNOW CHRIS IS ABOUT TO SMITE THEM FROM ATOP THE MORAL HIGH GROUND?

    • CAPSLOCK HUSTLA

      P.S. MAYBE YOU TWO COULD BRING IN MIKE MCQUEARY AS A CONSULTANT. YOU KNOW, THE PENN STATE GUY WHO SAW SANDUSKY RAPING LITTLE BOYS BUT KEPT HIS COMPLAINTS IN HOUSE AND DIDN’T GO TO THE COPS.

      MCQUEARY PROBABLY HAS GOOD SOCIAL JUSTICE INSIGHTS ON FAILING TO REPORT CHILD SEX CRIMES IN THE CONTEXT OF A PROUD FOOTBALL TRADITION.

      • Lol at bringing in Mcqueary.

  • Wait, he’s trying to sue you?

    For what?

    • Danger & Play Blog

      Defamation.

      • I see that now.

        After seeing no posts on it, I turned to Google to see if I had woke up today on Bizarro Earth. Should have done that first, but I was so gobsmacked by the very idea.

        He’s out of his mind.

  • Roxie

    Just a hint: Before going after Chris, do some research about what goes behind doors in professional sports. I’m not excusing this behavior, just that it is more common than you think, both at a professional and college level. This behavior has to be put into context of what is considered “normal”. Then you can argue that what is normal isn’t appropriate.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      Chris is suing me. Yes, I am going to learn about NFL sexual practices in intricate detail. Chris knows “everything,” after all.

      • Floyd

        You’re doing great things Mike.

    • T and A man

      A bunch of guys shooting shut, sometimes saying things which are insensitive, but nit really malign, are normal. However its been decreed that this had to be eliminated.

      We aren’t writing the rules, we’re just applying to the rule makers.

      • Danger & Play Blog

        Correct. They made the rules. OK. Now people are enforcing them. Uh oh.

  • fluffybiskuts

    This Kluwe sounds like such a child. An attention whoring SJW freak. He would rather not report a crime so he can get Twitter action and clicks…

    • Danger & Play Blog

      We will find out soon enough!

  • Milt Day

    So, he cares more about money than an underage girl being raped and protecting future girls from predators? He knows the identity of predators of women. Do his supporters know this?

    • Danger & Play Blog

      I don’t know what Chris knows. That’s why he’s suing me. It will be a great way for him to speak his mind. The gag order will be lifted. Man, those depositions are going to be interesting!

  • Matthew

    Man good to see some legal stuff on DandP, I miss CandF so much, that was a great blog (as is this one).

    • Danger & Play Blog

      Thanks. I enjoy writing about law. Ironic development: My legal work used to subsidized D&P. Soon D&P will do well enough that it will pay for me to take some time away to catch up on recent developments in the law. This newfound synergy is unexpected and fun.

  • Danger & Play Blog

    Interesting. I have no idea. I didn’t even know who Kluwe was until he attacked me. I’m unplugged from sports, pop culture. Thus I treat Kluwe not like a player or anyone I have animus for….He’s just a regular guy who is talking shit to me. That’s their kryptonite. I don’t know or respect or fear or even care about these people. When they come at me, they get no special treatment. They aren’t used to that.

  • Mike. Long time reader. I made a podcast about Nietzsche tonight, for my own reasons, but in the course I mentioned you. So in the interest of not being a subtweeter, here’s the URL: https://soundcloud.com/the-forge-within/how-to-be-a-master-and-not-a-slave-nietzsche-for-modern-men or on the blog: http://forgewithin.com/podcast-nietzsche-masculine-dominance-and-the-tarantulas-who-want-to-keep-you-down/

    The relevant part to D&P starts around 39:10. I might make a tighter youtube version if there’s interest. Keep up the great work.

  • yohami

    LOL

  • I remember when Kluwe went on the Colbert report to talk about his open letter to Emmett Burns re: gay marriage in Minnesota. He honestly seemed like a sincere guy, even if he was maybe plugged in. I’ll give it to him for taking a stand for what he believes in. His letter and campaign might have prematurely ended his NFL career. This is a guy who could have just cruised through life on that kicker money and lived well and easy, but he’s taking a stand for justice and what he believes in. I’ll give a person respect for that if the effort is sincere, even if it might be somewhat misguided.

    This will be a very interesting development indeed. But, who here is going to be honestly surprised that professional sports has a lot of skeletons in the closet? If anything this will shed light on how warped the general public’s perception of the professional athlete as the pinnacle of achievement and admiration is.

  • Ben

    Mike,

    I look forward to hearing your name bandied about on the local radio stations on my ride to work if it goes that far. There is a love/hate relationship with Kluwe in these parts. Most of the liberal paradigm believers love him for his stance on social issues. The conservative paradigm slaves hate him because of his stance on social issues. Also, conservatives tend to follow sports more closely in regards to ability and performance. Most conclude that his time as an effective punter in the sport were done. I would not know as I don’t follow sports any longer either. I know Kluwe was big in the gaming community too. Is that where your exposure to him came from? I have a lack of knowledge of these events because I have not been following along.

    Good luck with the suit. I am sure you will end up just fine.

    Ben

  • Rex Robinson

    You cannot be disciplined in great things and indiscipline in small things.
    Chris Kluwe can’t be seen as a voice for the lgbt community while making fun of penn state rape victims. Show’s a major character flaw which I’m sure you will exploit and use to your advantage.

  • armenia4ever

    Mike is in a unique position here with his legal background. The normal SJW bullying tactics won’t work so they are going to have to adapt. Will that happen?

    What shocks me is why Kluwe is still a “big” deal. Seriously, how many ex/retired nfl players these days are newsworthy? I suppose Kluwe has figured out how to keep himself in the limelight as still relevant.

    Kluwe is now the Jesse Jackson of the NFL.

  • Mikeis Crazy

    There is no cause for any of this. You don’t want to pick a fight with Nick Denton. He is powerful beyond your imagination

    • Danger & Play Blog

      I know he is. This isn’t a fight I picked. This is a fight they picked. I currently have a former Army Ranger staying with me. We are taking what some would call “paranoid” measures, as we understand how powerful Nick Denton is and how upset he is by this.

      • cerno

        I’ve seen them on your sites. But you’re fighting a war you can’t win. You’re America. You can hit hard. But your opponents are Vietnam. We are ghosts.

        • Danger & Play Blog

          Thank you for sharing your legitimate concerns for my safety. I am, however, already in too deep. If I could turn back the clock, would I have avoided this life-threatening situation? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

          Yet here we are, my friend.

          Best wishes.

          • bear

            I read your story and it seems that you are one of the ones born for this. Seriously.. like this is your destiny.

    • bear

      The man is pure evil.

  • kickedface

    keep up the good fight sir!

  • Costello

    I fear you are erring on the side of too much danger.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      I wake up each morning believing that today is a good day to die. This consciousness we experience is but a split second of the totality of our existence. Consciousness and ego is a beautiful, joyful ride, but I have also had glimpses of the Infinite. There is nothing to fear my friend.

      • dpthrowaway

        Better to die on your feet than live life on your knees.
        You’ve made your own decisions according to your own values.
        That there are scum in the world is not a reason to compromise or live life in fear.

        You’ve set a great example for others, thanks for being you and for sharing your experiences and wisdom.

        Just read on your twitter that they’ve threatened to doxx your fiance / put pressure on her employment. Disgusting for sure – but the intent is to bait you, get to your emotions, cause you to make a mistake. You’re better than falling into that trap. All the best to you both. Fuck sniveling cowards.

      • Costello

        Well after reading that I should nail this driving test.

  • James

    mike,

    literally making the most out of every encounter you’re taking- i hope your website will still be up in the next 6 months.

    i’m impressed- and would be very interested in the conference calls, when you decide to launch them. all your products, actually.

    all the best

  • S Childers

    Surely OP will deliver…

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