How to Lose Fat Without Losing Training Intensity

The Danger & Play Fat Loss Series

We are doing 4 podcasts on fat loss.

The first podcast is “How I Lost 80 pounds with Intermittent Fasting.” That’s the podcast you should listen to if you are obese, overweight, and you need to radically change your life and drop a lot of fat. (We also did a podcast covering nutrition and supplements and How to Gain 10 Pounds of Muscle Without Bulking.)

This is Part 2 of your Fat Loss Series.

Part 3 is going to be “How to Get Lean” which I prefer to be. I like to be lean but I’m not super ripped, super striated.

Part 4 is going to be for guys who are lean and they want to get ripped like Jay.

To listen to the podcast, click play, download it on SoundCloud or find it on iTunes. The write-up for the podcast as well as the transcript is at Jay’s personal blog, Fit Over 40.


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  • Shiva

    I find that when I am training hard (2x/day training 3+ hours of gym time), and working hard 10-11 hours/day in sales (entrepreneur) that I will consume a lot more carbs. Has Mike or anyone out there noticed this with regards to sales/writing/coding jobs that require brainpower? If I put in a long day at the office it feels like a third workout. It’s possible that the reliance of the brain on glucose is the cluprit.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      Yep. It’s hard to stay/get lean when you’re doing cognitively demanding work. That’s why most really lean/ripped guys are hopped up on stimulants all day every day. Adderall, massive amounts of caffeine, clen, ephedra, etc.

      If you’re not relying on glucose, then you need stimulants.

  • GM

    Guys, these podcasts are fucking gold and this one was pretty hilarious in addition to being informative.

    I’m a beginner lifter and it’s very helpful to have real, no BS information that cuts through so much of the crap that is out there.

    What was the name of the first glucose disposal agent you guys mention? I heard “sinsulin” but that can’t be right as Googling it doesn’t show up any results.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      CinSulin with a “c.”

  • Eric

    Excellent podcast, wow, learned a shitload. Mike – over the years I feel like you’ve been a ‘voice of reason’ when it comes to the health benefits of fruit and not cutting it out like some paleo/low-carbers tell you to do. I didn’t hear fruit mentioned (unless I missed it) so it would be great to hear you talk about that in the next podcast as it relates to carb cycling. Do you avoid fruit on a non-training days? Do you not combine it with other types of carbs or fats? How about different types of fruit – bananas vs apples, pineapples, etc. Really look forward to you breaking that down.

    2nd question – just to confirm my understanding on your points on saturated fat / carbs – do you avoid using coconut oil on Quinoa or any carbs, since it’s saturated fat? It sounded like that is the case and I was using coconut oil on basically everything, so I’m definitely going to switch things up and stop using it on Quinoa. If that is not the case, please correct me.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      There’s an entire culture of people who eat nothing but fruits. Go on YouTube and type in “fruitarian.” Fruit doesn’t make you fat. That’s a myth based on a misunderstanding of some study that supposedly shows that the body can only process 75 grams of fructose (which is still a lot, as most of the sugar in fruit comes from glucose) before storing it as fat.

      Again, look at the results. The 80/10/10 and 30 Bananas a Day people are skinny. If fruit makes you fat, how can that be?

      The body seems to process coconut oil differently (due to MCT structure of fatty acids in coconut oil) than it does pure saturated fat.

      As always, experience and see what works best for you.

      • anon1

        didnt the fruitarian diet fuck up steve jobs? when ashton kutcher was playing jobs in the biopic he tried the fruitarian diet to see what jobs ate when dealing with pancreatic cancer. he ended up getting pancreatitis and hospitalised.

        • Danger & Play Blog

          Do you really believe that Ashton Kutcher stopped smoking cigarettes and drinking and doing drugs? (Steve Jobs had cancer, so clearly there were other things going on inside his body.) I don’t believe anything the media says about health/diet – even when it concerns something I don’t do. The fruitarian diet is not for me, but it works for some.

          • anon1

            yes good point

  • Dman

    How much MCT oil do you guys recommend (ballpark)? Right now I take 1 table spoon per day in the morning. Is more needed to see its effects? My body type is mostly ecto.

    • Danger & Play Blog

      I go for 2 tablespoons of MCT oil and 2 tablespoons of Udo’s oil a day.

      I mix that in with 50 grams of protein powder and 16-24 ounces of cold brew coffee.

  • C1263

    Any word on what you’ll be doing with the transcribed podcasts? I would pay money for them, just to have the information more convenient and easily retrievable.

  • CJustice

    When can we expect to get our hands (or ears) on the third and fourth podcasts??

    • Danger & Play Blog

      I am getting over the flu. I have no idea how I got the flu in June in California, but there you go. Jay and I will meet up and finish the series either this weekend or next. In the meantime, check out his fitness site:

      • CJustice

        Awesome. Thanks for what y’all do

  • Robert

    “the worst thing you can do is combine alcohol and carbohydrates…” so how bad is drinking beer for your diet based on this?

  • Oyden

    For a non-diabetic who has access to Metformin, how would a person integrate it into their diet/supplement regimen?

  • Richard0292


    I’m following Victor Prides Spartan training program which involves training 6 days per week. However in order to carb cycle I’ll be eating <50g of unsaturated fat on those 6 days.

    Can and should carb cycling be done in this way? I was thinking that 6/7 low fat, low saturated fat days per week would harm my testosterone levels.

    By the way, thanks for the great podcast!