Overgaming in Action

Why don’t I do PUA type stuff? This video illustrates why. (Fast forward to 2:28.) In it, you can see the following occur: Mystery is opened by a woman. She’s decent, but not great. All he needs to do is not fuck it up with her, and he’ll bang her. Or he can use her to trade up to another girl.

Indeed, later (at 6:05), an more attractive woman hits on him. All he needs to do is not fuck it up.

Yet he rambles on, focusing on PUA tactics than actually meeting women. I’ve long said that much of Myster’s success is due to his height, good looks, and overall magician’s look. This video doesn’t disprove my view (although the comments superimposed on the film are hateful and were no doubt added by a loser):

  • http://www.getgirlsnotgame.com/blog/ JT

    The captions are annoying, haha.

    But yea, over-gaming. As Mystery rambles on, you can visibly see the girl lose attraction and interest.

    LOL @ 9:00m – “I am the tribal leader”

  • Anonymous

    It seems like the current trend on game blogs is to make fun of Mystery for being too “PUA”. Your blog is incredible, but I think you’re forgetting all of the things that Mystery did for game. Before him, most of us were “AFC” and entirely hopeless.

    I think making fun of him is a little like Boeing making fun of the Wright brothers…

    • http://dangerandplay.wordpress.com dangerandplay

      I’m not making fun of or hating on him. I’m just pointing out what happens when you let the game tail wag the get laid dog.

      Game is a means to an end, not an end in itself. There’s no need to run game is the girl is already on your jock. Just be cool, and don’t fuck it up.

  • dc1000

    yeah but that video was just so bad. it wasn’t even bad for mystery, it was bad in general.

    • http://dangerandplay.wordpress.com dangerandplay

      Right. Like a lot of guys, he treated PUA as an end in itself. To me, it’s just a way to meet women. It’s instrumentally rather than intrinsically good. If a girl comes up to you, no need to ramble on about being a tribal leader.

  • dodo

    Good looks”?

    the guy looks like a homo

    • http://dangerandplay.wordpress.com dangerandplay

      Many women find that look attractive. Too many guys focus on being attractive/dressing so that others guys think they don’t look gay. That’s a mistake. Dress for your audience – which means when going out, women.

  • ASF

    I don’t get all the Mystery hate. Yes, things have moved on and progressed, but like the poster said above, MM was the first coherent articulation of everything we now take for granted. I would not dress like he does, but it works for him.

    Who knows what he was thinking in this one…maybe he didn’t really give a shit about picking up and was just engaging in some verbal BS. I think there is also this idea that a “PUA” has to be successful all of the time. The reality is that there is a lot of failure, and Mystery is no exception. I’m sure he’s run game and totally bombed many times.

    • http://dangerandplay.wordpress.com dangerandplay

      My “spiritual leader” is Roissy – or at least whoever was posting at Roissy way back in the day. Roissy will someday receive a large check from me when he least expects it.

      I read MM after Roissy recommended it. MM didn’t do anything for my game. Reading Roissy and just being myself (ex-Army officer, boxer, accused criminal, intellectual, dog owner, and good friend) is what made my game wicked. Painting my nails black…not so much.

      Not saying MM won’t work for other guys. Clearly it works for some, and Roissy recommended it. Roissy was even deferential when Mystery wrote in over the Mystery-love-song-to-daughter incident.

      So I’ll leave it to others to hate. For me, though, MM isn’t the foundation of my game, and I “owe” him a debt of gratitude only to the extent he created Roissy.

  • Shawn

    I will add that I believe that most of Roissy’s success with achieving lays is because HE is tall and good-looking. Those in the know know this is likely so.

  • http://spuzarts.wordpress.com Spuz

    That video was fucked up in so many ways. Cameras weren’t hidden, and probably most of the girls could guess what was being filmed.
    Thus, in my opinion, Mystery is not “overgaming”, but he is very much “antigaming”. He is not overusing his stuff, he is NOT using it. There is no kino, no sexual tension, no negs. He is just talking about himself, like every other try-hard guy.
    This other video is totally different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsPc9vbDR7U

    About his looks, I do not agree with you at all. For instance, take Lovedrop, a buddy of his. He is pretty much average-looking and he doesn’t even peacock. Yet, he has still a good success with woman.

  • http://www.fredtracy.com Fred Tracy

    Jeez, that was bad. The part about tribal leader.. haha.

    Nevertheless, Mystery knows what he is doing. I don’t know why this video is so awful!

  • Rusty

    I watched this (well, the original) and thought exactly the same.

    The girl was attracted from the start, why bother going through the ‘motions’?

    I did wonder if it was to demonstrate his method for the purpose of the video. Like Fred said he does know what he’s doing so it’s unlikely he’s become so dependent on his own method that he can’t see the wood through the trees so to speak.

    It’s the guys new to game watching this that are going to suffer.